[pmwiki-users] New WikiGroups on pmwiki.org [Was: Volunteering for a PITS issue]

Rogutės Sparnuotos rogutes at googlemail.com
Fri Oct 12 07:06:46 CDT 2012

Hans Bracker (2012-10-08 12:07):
> Saturday, October 6, 2012, 9:20:13 PM, Petko wrote:
> > I'd like to have some arguments from the community why we should or  
> > shouldn't have a dedicated Skins/ group.
> Since the introduction of categories and links to listing by category
> in the cookbook group menu I did not find a problem having skins in the cookbook.
> For general browsing in general lists like RecentChanges it did help to have skins identified in the page name by a 'Skin' suffix, like PmWikiSkin. 
> Not all skin pages have that, unfortunately. A dedicated page group for skin pages will eliminate that, obviously.
> But moving skin recipes into their own group will likely break a number of links in external sites. I am using the Cookbook:.... alias on external sites, so any links to skin pages will need to be modified. We probably need a Skins:.... alias to create links to page sin the PmWiki.org Skins group easily. That would require a change in the distributed system, and it will not be backwards compatible. So broken external links won't be fixed automatically, and not easily, unless a system update will prepare for that.
> Then there may be all kinds of internal links on Cookbook pages between skin page and other recipe pages. Perhaps they can be modified automatically, otherwise need manual page revisions.
> So the organisational work may be more than one thinks, especially considering the impact on external sites. Is the benefit big enough to warrant this? I doubt it, since categories seem already to offer the best way to browse the cookbook.

I, for one, don't expect to see Skins under pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook and
don't expect recipes under pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Skins. As someone has
already mentioned, recipes change/add functionality and skins change the
look. I would like it better if there was clear separation between the two
(but not necessarily separate groups). At least separate Cookbook indexes:

  Recipe Index by Rating
  Recipe Index

  Skin Index
  Skin Index by Rating

At the top of http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/IndexByRating is
Skittlish, but it's not clear that it changes the look when reading its
name or description:

  Skittlish allows site visitors to choose between fixed and fluid width,
  and between seven candy-inspired colours for the sidebar.

http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Cookbook/Skins lists recipes, which do not
change the look: CssCompress, EditFormSamples, FontSizer, HideSearchBar,
JsCompress, NetstreamsMenu, RemovingHTMLStyles, SkinChange, SkinChanges,
SkinConfig, SkinGuidelines, SkinList, ViewModes.

--  Rogutės Sparnuotos

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