[pmwiki-users] it's time to change pmwiki default skin!

Carlos AB cabsec.pmwiki at gmail.com
Thu Sep 15 21:32:01 CDT 2011

Wiki creole says that we should use a dotted underline to flag a link
to a non existent page and I believe it is a dotted border-bottom.

Should we respect that since PmWiki supports creole and I believe that
this particular rule of creole was done that way to also give support
for people that are visually impaired.

Also, PmWiki allows us to change the fmt of how links to non existant
pages look like, trough $LinkPageCreateFmt .

This is good for people who build skins as the actual
$LinkPageCreateFmt creates two links for one markup, I had to hide the
second link to create a different style of sidebar once and having a
skin to change the format of $LinkPageCreateFmt doesn't sound like a
good idea and plus it would create more problems.

Does the PmWiki community wants to follow creole rules by the dot, or
perhaps, by the underline? :-)


On 9/15/11, John Rankin <john.rankin at affinity.co.nz> wrote:
>>>horizontally, so long lines don't cause an overflow; avoid underline for
>>>links (use border-bottom on hover instead, if at all); spruce up the
>> I want links to be underlined _and_ coloured, I don not want to guess
>> what could be a link.
> Yes, unless there is a strong contrast between the text colour and the
> link colour, this is a problem with many sites, especially, as Petko
> notes, when the visited colour is not clearly different.
> What is your view of sites where the link border-bottom is dotted? It
> makes links more visible, but is less intrusive than a solid rule. The
> dotted rule can turn solid on mouseover, of course.
>> BTW: What's the benefit of "border-bottom" (besides different color)?
> Underline passes through the letter descenders and makes the words
> slightly less readable -- we recognise words in part by the word shape and
> underline can obscure this to a (small) degree. The border-bottom option
> puts a rule slightly below the descenders. This is a practice borrowed
> from print publishing, whereas underlining is carried over from the manual
> typewriter. My understanding (and I am not certain of this) is that
> mechanical constraints in a typewriter meant the underline physically
> could not print below the descenders, unless you moved the carriage up
> slightly.
> JR
> --
> John Rankin

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