[pmwiki-users] Petko's E2100/US$2, 963 bid for WYSIWYG capability

DaveG pmwiki at solidgone.com
Tue May 17 16:56:31 CDT 2011

Perhaps something like pledgie http://pledgie.com/site/faq (used within 
Github for project support) would be useful to track commitments to the 

I'd set it up, but the recipient needs to enter a Paypal address to 
facilitate funds transfer.

  ~ ~ Dave

On 5/14/2011 5:25 PM, Al Louis Ripskis wrote:
>> Petko Yotov<5ko at 5ko.fr>Sent: May 14, 2011 3:36 PM
>> The cost of this work is estimated to be 2100 euros. My company doesn't
>> collect VAT. A receipt or a number of receipts will be available.
> Guys,
> I'm relatively new to this list, so I have no idea how this type of contract has been handled in the past.
> My first instinct would be to consult Pm on this. Also how would the collection be handled?
> As to the cost, it of course would depend on how many of would contribute.
> Today the euro to $US dollar rate is 1 to 1.411. So 2100 euros translate to $US2,963.10.
> So if a 100 of us contributed, it would be $29.63 each.
> If 50 then it would be $59.26.
> If thirty, then it would be $98.77, or round off to $100.
> Now could we have a show of hands--or in this case e-mails--as to how many of you and how much you would be willing to contribute.
> I'll start of with $100, if necessary.
> Cheers,
> Al
>> To: Al Louis Ripskis<ripskis at sprynet.com>
>> Cc: pmwiki-users<pmwiki-users at pmichaud.com>
>> Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [pmwiki-users] Follow-Up:Whither WYSIWYG? Contract/Contribution
>> On Saturday 14 May 2011 14:30:30 Al Louis Ripskis wrote:
>>> Did my email slip through the cracks? Or is there some
>>> other reason why you haven't responded?
>> It is not easy to estimate this kind of work. Such a module can be done fairly
>> quickly (2-3 days) but without a good integration with PmWiki and with
>> potential security holes, as a couple of users expressed their concerns.
>> PmWiki has lots of features and different configurations. Such a module has to
>> work in many different environments, like different settings for passwords,
>> diffrent uploads directories, different servers, and different browsers.
>> Additional modules need to be written - file picker (with thumbnails?),
>> asynchronous uploader (upload a file while you edit a page), internal link
>> picker (autocomplete?). The most difficult decision is how to store and
>> differenciate the feature-limited RichText input from wiki-code which can have
>> unlimited features and local customizations.
>> Last but not least, it is not possible to write such a complex program at once
>> - there will certainly be bugs to be fixed as they are uncovered, features
>> added or changed, and the module has to be supported in the future.
>>> "What do you estimate it would take to do it, and how long would it
>>> take? What cost?"
>> Here is a Quote:
>> 2 weeks of work for a working beta prototype, including:
>> * integration with PmWiki pages, passwords and upload directories
>> * modules file picker/uploader, link picker
>> * full documentation
>> * 1 year bugfixing/support on the Cookbook Talk page or in the PITS
>> * free software under the GNU GPL, MIT-style license or WTFPL/PD (the best
>> things in life are free)
>> The cost of this work is estimated to be 2100 euros. My company doesn't
>> collect VAT. A receipt or a number of receipts will be available.
>> Note that the features of the rich-text editor will be limited - not all
>> existing HTML tags or attributes can be available, and not all PmWiki markups
>> can have a rich-text "button". The rich-text editor will be in addition to the
>> normal wiki-text editor.
>> Thanks,
>> Petko
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