[pmwiki-users] Petko's E2100/US$2, 963 bid for WYSIWYG capability

Radu Luchian radu at monicsoft.net
Tue May 17 12:39:12 CDT 2011


Thank you, Finar. For the record, another $45 for the visual editor project.

On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:19, Philipp Kazakow <finar at finar.ru> wrote:

> Yes, thanks, it looks like it can be done this way.
> OK, please take my email finar at finar.ru in the list of contributers with
> 45$ donation.
>
> Finar.
>
>
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> 2011/5/17 Radu Luchian <radu at monicsoft.net>
>
>> PayPal takes Visa cards. Have you tried it on paypal.com?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 03:40, Philipp Kazakow <finar at finar.ru> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello!
>>>
>>> I'm ready to donate around 40-50$, but I really do not know how to do it.
>>> Here in Russia we do not have PayPal. Is there any way to donate via Visa
>>> Classic card? Or probably make a transfer via Western Union<http://www.westernunion.ru/>?
>>>
>>>
>>> Finar.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2011/5/15 Al Louis Ripskis <ripskis at sprynet.com>
>>>
>>>> > Petko Yotov <5ko at 5ko.fr >Sent: May 14, 2011 3:36 PM
>>>> >The cost of this work is estimated to be 2100 euros. My company doesn't
>>>> >collect VAT. A receipt or a number of receipts will be available.
>>>> Guys,
>>>> I'm relatively new to this list, so I have no idea how this type of
>>>> contract has been handled in the past.
>>>> My first instinct would be to consult Pm on this. Also how would the
>>>> collection be handled?
>>>> As to the cost, it of course would depend on how many of would
>>>> contribute.
>>>> Today the euro to $US dollar rate is 1 to 1.411. So 2100 euros translate
>>>> to $US2,963.10.
>>>> So if a 100 of us contributed, it would be $29.63 each.
>>>> If 50 then it would be $59.26.
>>>> If thirty, then it would be $98.77, or round off to $100.
>>>> Now could we have a show of hands--or in this case e-mails--as to how
>>>> many of you and how much you would be willing to contribute.
>>>> I'll start of with $100, if necessary.
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Al
>>>>
>>>> >To: Al Louis Ripskis <ripskis at sprynet.com>
>>>> >Cc: pmwiki-users <pmwiki-users at pmichaud.com>
>>>> >Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [pmwiki-users] Follow-Up:Whither WYSIWYG?
>>>> Contract/Contribution
>>>> >
>>>> >On Saturday 14 May 2011 14:30:30 Al Louis Ripskis wrote:
>>>> >> Did my email slip through the cracks? Or is there some
>>>> >> other reason why you haven't responded?
>>>> >
>>>> >It is not easy to estimate this kind of work. Such a module can be done
>>>> fairly
>>>> >quickly (2-3 days) but without a good integration with PmWiki and with
>>>> >potential security holes, as a couple of users expressed their
>>>> concerns.
>>>> >
>>>> >PmWiki has lots of features and different configurations. Such a module
>>>> has to
>>>> >work in many different environments, like different settings for
>>>> passwords,
>>>> >diffrent uploads directories, different servers, and different
>>>> browsers.
>>>> >Additional modules need to be written - file picker (with thumbnails?),
>>>> >asynchronous uploader (upload a file while you edit a page), internal
>>>> link
>>>> >picker (autocomplete?). The most difficult decision is how to store and
>>>> >differenciate the feature-limited RichText input from wiki-code which
>>>> can have
>>>> >unlimited features and local customizations.
>>>> >
>>>> >Last but not least, it is not possible to write such a complex program
>>>> at once
>>>> >- there will certainly be bugs to be fixed as they are uncovered,
>>>> features
>>>> >added or changed, and the module has to be supported in the future.
>>>> >
>>>> >> "What do you estimate it would take to do it, and how long would it
>>>> >> take? What cost?"
>>>> >
>>>> >Here is a Quote:
>>>> >
>>>> >2 weeks of work for a working beta prototype, including:
>>>> >* integration with PmWiki pages, passwords and upload directories
>>>> >* modules file picker/uploader, link picker
>>>> >* full documentation
>>>> >* 1 year bugfixing/support on the Cookbook Talk page or in the PITS
>>>> >* free software under the GNU GPL, MIT-style license or WTFPL/PD (the
>>>> best
>>>> >things in life are free)
>>>> >
>>>> >The cost of this work is estimated to be 2100 euros. My company doesn't
>>>> >collect VAT. A receipt or a number of receipts will be available.
>>>> >
>>>> >Note that the features of the rich-text editor will be limited - not
>>>> all
>>>> >existing HTML tags or attributes can be available, and not all PmWiki
>>>> markups
>>>> >can have a rich-text "button". The rich-text editor will be in addition
>>>> to the
>>>> >normal wiki-text editor.
>>>> >
>>>> >Thanks,
>>>> >Petko
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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