[pmwiki-users] Split screen feature?

Donald Z. Osborn dzosborn at gmail.com
Wed Sep 27 16:47:31 CDT 2006

Thanks. I have set up something fast and dirty using frames (framesets) that
accomplishes the immediate objective. I tried doing something with iframes
but it somehow did not work. In any event, the answer is a lot simpler than
I had thought, though we'll see how it goes for functionality. If users go
for it and have feedback, then I'll have to look into more involved

One drawback of this solution I can see already is that there's only one set
of Fwd and Back buttons for the two frames, and if you go back it acts on
the most recently active frame (and then the next in reverse chronological
order). So the wiki navigation has to be clear - the more into subpages you
get on the 2 frames, the more likely the single back button will become an

A rudimentary gateway page (never mind the inferior translations - we'll get
to them) is at: http://www.panafril10n.org/wiki/  - there are 2 views
offered (again this is a kind of experiment).


On 9/26/06, Joachim Durchholz <jo at durchholz.org> wrote:
> Donald Z. Osborn schrieb:
> > Maybe its just that they were often being used for the
> > wrong purposes (like to set up a sidebar)?
> It's really a browser issue. If browsers showed the URLs of all the
> frames (possibly in an abbreviated form), and saved the entire frameset
> in bookmarks instead of just the main frameset-defining page, framesets
> would be easy to use.
> > Also since an increasing number of users will be in Africa with often
> older
> > systems, I'm concerned about usability. Of course one can have noframes
> > option, but if there were sth better than frames (with options) then
> that
> > would be if interest.
> You can use CSS to generate scrollbars. (Might become an option with
> newer IE browsers.)
> An alternative is iframes - browsers tend to carp about them, but only
> if the included frame is from a different domain than the outside area.
> > The main thing is to facilitate simultaneous views of two pages from the
> > wiki for comparison, navigation and editing.
> For comparison, you'll probably end up with a table. Correlating two
> similar pages using scroll bars isn't fun, it's far better to have the
> software pair up the correlated chunks of text for you.
> Navigation and editing are indeed cases for separately scrollable areas.
> > It would be nice if one could
> > move the bar of a frame separating 2 frames to get a larger view of one
> > frame at the expense of another.
> I know of no technique for that, except framesets.
> Jo
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