[pmwiki-users] Proposed Default Stylesheet (pmwiki.css)

[Patrick R. Michaud]

On Sat, Feb 18, 2006 at 01:28:03AM +0100, Joachim Durchholz wrote:
> > Ultimately  I don't think PmWiki should automatically eat blank 
> > lines after headings.  Better is to use CSS to style those blank
> > lines as we want:
> > 
> >     h1 + p.vspace { margin-top: ...  }
> > 
> > (Unfortunately, IE 6 doesn't support the CSS "+" selector yet.)
> 
> I'd try to avoid that if at all possible. Using "+" means you have to 
> revisit a lot of corner cases, such as "<h2> after <h1>", "<h3> after 
> <h1>", ..., "<h6> after <h1>", "<hr> after <h1>"; repeat for <h2>, <h3> 
> etc. etc. etc. - horror!

Why?  Seems to me that h1 + p.vspace, h2 + p.vspace, h3 + p.vspace, etc.
would be sufficient to cover things.

> Here's an alternative:
> Make lines that start with ! eat the following blank line if it exists. 
> That way, if a page author truly wants more empty space after a heading, 
> he can insert two empty lines.
> (Maybe too subtle... but empty lines after headings are subtle no matter 
> what.)

For some reason I'm also uneasy about summarily eating any blank line
that follows a heading -- that feels at least as wrong to me as using '+'
in the CSS.

Ignoring PmWiki for a moment, how would one adjust the heading
margins with CSS assuming "normal" HTML semantics -- i.e., 
"How HTML Is Supposed To Be Done"?  

    <h1>Heading</h1>
    <p>Here's my first paragraph</p>
    <p>Here's my second paragraph</p>

> On a tangent, I noticed that PmWiki has an interesting deviant behavior 
> if a ! line is followed with [@: it will run the preformatted text into 
> the header. I.e.
> 
> !!Header
> [@
> lorem ipsum
> @]
> 
> will give
> 
> <h2>header <pre>lorem ipsum</pre></h2>
> 
> which isn't quite what I expected. (Quoting from memory, so I may have 
> gotten some details wrong.)

I'm unable to produce this behavior on pmwiki.org --
see http://www.pmwiki.org/wiki/Test/HeadingAndPre .

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