[pmwiki-users] improved markup for floating images...?
Patrick R. Michaud
pmichaud at pobox.com
Wed Jul 27 07:04:38 CDT 2005
On Wed, Jul 27, 2005 at 10:20:05AM +0100, Ed W wrote:
> >Then we would have:
> > Attach:image.jpg # floating right w/margins
> > %float=left% Attach:image.jpg # floating left w/margins
> > %framed% Attach:image.jpg # floating right w/frame
> > %framed% Attach:image.jpg [[<<]] caption # floating right
> > ...
> >In the extremely rare case that someone needs to start a line with
> >an image that acts inlined, they can write things like:
> > [==] Attach:image.jpg here is some text
> Looks great, except, what does [==] do?
It's a null text marker -- [=...=] protects anything inside of it.
In this case it prevents the image from being the first item on the
line without actually generating any output. (I did say it's rare. :-)
> I like the use of the style stuff to indicate how to style the image.
> However, I'm not totally happy with the captioning syntax.
As I said, the [[<<]] is just a stand-in at the moment for whatever
else that we come up with that means "break" or "place the next item
below this one". Surely we can come up with something better ...?
> Or does anyone really need alt text which
> is different from the caption?
I think the answer here will be yes.
> I'm still wondering if the wikipedia way of using a start and end tag
> around the image doesn't give some options for a "shorthand" version of
> all the above. ie if we disregard their choice of tag for the moment, then:
> [[Image:image.jpg|right|my caption]]
> Is actually rather easy to use?
...except I'm not sure that with something like this that "my caption"
can contain much in the way of markup. But if you really want a
shorthand version, there's always the possibility of:
(:image Attach:image.jpg right "my caption":)
But I'm not hugely in favor of this.
> The other thought is that you probably don't need a left and right
> aligned WITHOUT wrapping option - you could just document some syntax
> for a "clear:both" break and then the writer simply sticks one of those
> in when they want one. This might simplify some syntax?
There are times when people will want a left-image without wrapping
(think graphic titles). But more to the point, I don't have to do
anything special for %left% and %right% above -- they already exist
and so I get them "for free".
> On the other hand it would also be nice to be able to float arbitrary
> paragraphs and hence style them up like notes within the text. If you
> do put in a float syntax could it be made to apply to other block level
> items..? What do you think?
Well, yes, this is the whole point of wikistyles -- in the general
case they aren't specific to any tag or markup. Thus one can do:
This text appears in a framed floating box to the right of the page.
It can include [[links]] to other pages and '''other markup'''
%define=postitnote bgcolor=yellow float=right frame width=100px%
Don't forget to write!
A paragraph can have an inlined post-it. %postitnote% Like this! %%
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