[pmwiki-users] RFC: Indexing categories and links (suspended)

Simon nzskiwi at gmail.com
Sat Mar 6 22:12:23 CST 2010

I feed that the existing use of bang in pagelist selections is either low or
non existent,
in part because the documentation doesn't mention it strongly, and all
examples user the hyphen.
Community can correct me on this ...

The new markup could be introduced initially as an option that has to be
switched on, thus not breaking anything.
Switching the new feature on would mean

   - bang no longer worked as negation in pagelist parameters
   - the new link=!MyCategory pagelist parameter functionality would be

As part of a future major release, or after significant time, it could
become the default behaviour
and in fact could be the default behaviour in new wikis.
The indexing of [[!MyCategory]] can be introduced in any case.

My thoughts


On 6 March 2010 10:06, Petko Yotov <5ko at 5ko.fr> wrote:

> On Thursday 04 March 2010 10:03:12, Peter Bowers wrote :
> > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Petko Yotov <5ko at 5ko.fr> wrote:
> > > I now see a problem of which I haven't thought before -- with other
> > > parameters like name=!Name or group=!Name the "!" means "NOT Name" so
> > > link=!Name may be confusing and a bad idea. :-(
> > > Especially if at some point we change the link= parameter to accept
> > > multiple page names like link=Page1,Page2,-Group3.* . Hmm...
> ...
> >
> > What if we went with something like this:
> >    link=^!^mycat
> > -or-
> >    link=(!)mycat
> > -or-
> >    link=\!mycat       // kind of like escaping the !...?  [1]
> This is exactly the thing I'd like to avoid -- if there is an inconsistent
> and
> un-intuitive implementation for a new feature request, we add more complex
> and
> un-intuitive markup to fix its problems. :-)
> I feel that I was wrong about this -- I don't want to add a feature without
> enough thinking, and regret it later when it could prevent us to do a more
> important change. When I see that I'm wrong I change.:-) Good thing that it
> wasn't released.
> While there are users from the community who want this feature, I'm not
> sure
> we have a consensus, ot even a majority. The implementation requires
> substantial changes to the core and I feel that what we have now is not
> really
> a good, globally logical solution. Also, a couple of bugs need to be fixed
> and
> released asap.
> For these reasons, I'll suspend the feature request (PITS:00447) until we
> find
> a better way to deal with it.
> Thanks,
> Petko
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