[pmwiki-users] Another stab at ratings on PmCalendar page

Vince Administration vadmin at math.uconn.edu
Sat Feb 28 09:44:32 CST 2009


This is the best solution I have seen so far.
It is worth doing.
     Vince

On Feb 28, 2009, at 4:48 AM, Peter Bowers wrote:

> On Saturday, February 28, 2009 1:24 AM Petko Yotov wrote:
>> On Friday 27 February 2009 22:21:02 Peter Bowers wrote:
>>> Almost any of the ideas that have been proposed would work -- one  
>>> just
>> needs
>>> to be "appointed" and then implemented.
>>
>> ...
>>
>> Sorry. Isn't this quite complicated? Are there some benefits over
>> something
>> most basic and simplest like:
>>
>>   on a recipe ratings page (Recipe-Users?): asterisk, comment,  
>> signature :
>>
>>   * I use it. [[~Petko]] (datestamp)
>>   * I reviewed the recipe and I endorse it. [[~Pm]] (datestamp)
>>   * Excellent recipe, I used it before (now I only have the simple  
>> auth,
>>     no AuthUser, so I no longer need this recipe.) [[~Dfaure]]  
>> (datestamp)
>>
>> ?
>>
>> There is a comment capability, there are links to the profiles. A  
>> link in
>> the
>> recipeinfo block could be in [[Recipe]], on the same line as
>>  Discussion: [[Recipe-Talk]], [[Recipe-Users]]
>
> FANTASTIC!  Let's do it!  Simple, effective.  The only thing it  
> misses is
> some sort of numeric indicator on the recipe page itself, but  
> that's a small
> price...  (If the maintainer wants a numeric indicator he can  
> periodically
> manually count the users and put a number on the page next to the  
> link.)
>
>> It is less CPU-intensive for the server than opening all profile  
>> pages to
>> find
>> and extract comments in PTVs. Orders of magnitude less CPU intensive.
>
> Technically I believe with both the link= and with the straight- 
> text search
> only the .pageindex will be accessed during the search itself.   
> Then only
> for profile pages which are found will we have to open to access  
> the profile
> pages to find out the content of the PTV.  But that's a minor  
> technicality
> -- I'm fine with the simple solution above.
>
>> One potential problem I see with such an implementation is that the
>> Recipe-Users page might become another place to chat about the  
>> recipe,
>> which
>> it is not intended to be. Like, a user adds a negative comment,  
>> the author
>> replies and a conversation goes on. But, we could manually move
>> the "conversation" to the Recipe-Talk page, leaving  only the first
>> comment
>> (the user is free to change his comment at a later moment.)
>
> This sounds like life-on-a-wiki (the kind of thing any wiki user  
> deals with
> all the time since we're dealing with an intentionally low- 
> structure data
> store) and certainly not a reason to reject the solution.
>
> The other advantage of this solution is that it is an easier  
> solution to
> attach a form later if we decide that is desirable...
>
> Can we get some more comments to see if there is a consensus in the  
> making?
>
> -Peter
>
>
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