On 20 Oct 2004, John Rankin wrote: > FWIW: my full name is John Rankin, my family name is Rankin and my > given name is John. In my head, family name = group and given name > = name. (I say 'My name is John' not 'My given name is John') So: My name is Bond, James Bond :-) /Christian -- Christian Ridderstr?m, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr