[Pmwiki-users] Re: [[include: ... ]] part of a page

[Nils Knappmeier]

There is one difficulty that comes to my mind. If someone deletes an anchor,
finding the error will be more difficult in my eyes. Imagine, you look 
at a page and it looks completely different than usual, but you find 
that nobody changed anything to that page. And on any other page, unless 
you look at the markup changes, you won't see a difference as well.

If you have an anchor in page, you won't know, if it is being used by 
any includes or references. So you don't know if it is safe to remove an 
anchor or not.

I would suggest this:

1) Show anchors in the default page history (not only with the markup 
changes)
2a) If an [[include: ]] uses an non-existing anchor, put a warning 
message at the top of the included
   content, containing a link to the included page.
2b) Alternative: if .... non-existing anchor, don't ignore the include 
(like if the page doesn't exist), but still create a reference to the 
included page.
3) Implement a function that looks for unused anchors somehow.

I don't know if (3) is really so serious. It's actually good to have a 
lot of anchors. But the same problem
occurs with renaming anchors.

Nils



Patrick R. Michaud wrote:

>I'm open for discussion/reactions from the group on the suggestions given
>by J. Meijer (below).  Many seem plausible to me.  If we followed it, 
>the result might be something like:
>
>   [[include:SomePage#soup]]       -- everything after #soup (cf. HTML)
>   [[include:SomePage#soup#nuts]]  -- from #soup to #nuts
>   [[include:SomePage#1#soup]]     -- everything before #soup
>   [[include:SomePage#soup#]]      -- from #soup to the next anchor
>   [[include:SomePage#1#]]         -- everything up to the first anchor
>   [[include:SomePage#10]]         -- line 10 through end of SomePage
>   [[include:SomePage#10#]]        -- line 10 through the next anchor
>
>   [[include:SomePage#1#10]]       -- first ten lines 
>   [[include:SomePage#5#10]]       -- lines 5 through 14
>   [[include:SomePage#soup#1]]     -- one line starting with #soup
>   [[include:SomePage#soup#5]]     -- five lines starting with #soup
>
>We should try to solidify the interpretation of this syntax fairly quickly.
>
>Pm
>
>On Tue, May 04, 2004 at 11:11:37PM +0100, J. Meijer wrote:
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>>Glad to see the [[include:SomePage#from#to]] syntax emerging. I see it as an
>>essential part of PmWiki.
>>
>>The [[include:SomePage#from#]] syntax should include up to the next anchor.
>>It is likely to be most frequently used. I just want to quote what that one
>>author said on the subject.
>>
>>When I want just the headline following the anchor I'd like to use
>>[[include:SomePage#from#1]].
>>
>>So when using numbers, I'd prefer this syntax: [[include:SomePage#10#5]]
>>include 5 lines starting with line 10. Either number could be an anchor
>>though [[include:SomePage#10#endanchor]]  doesn't look very intuitive.
>>
>>-jm
>>
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