[Pmwiki-users] Supplement to [[<<]] (Was: Suggestions for [[<<]] replacement.

[Christian Ridderström]

On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:

I encountered a common situation today that's related to this. Here's the 
markup that I'm using right now:

	: : Bla bla bla bla bla [[<<]]\
	Bla bla bla bla bla [[<<]]\

I think I wrote in some other mail that I often use the combination 
	[[<<]]\
but what I didn't think about then, was that I mostly use it when I'm in 
some other environment than a normal paragraph.

Pretending that '\\' at the end of a line (and only at the end of a line) 
is equivalent to [[<<]]\, it'd look like this:

	: : Bla bla bla bla bla bla\\
	bla bla bla bla

The combination of line-continuation and line-break is especially useful 
inside tables. Here's what we want to render:

	About windows	Microsoft Windows
			
			Yesterday it worked
			Today it is not working
			Windows is like that

Using the current markup:
	
	||About windows ||Microsoft Windows[[<<]]\
	[[<<]]\
	Yesterday it worked[[<<]]\
	Today it is not working[[<<]]\
	Windows is like that ||

Using '\\' at the end of a line
	
	||About windows ||Microsoft Windows\\
	\\
	Yesterday it worked\\
	Today it is not working\\
	Windows is like that ||

Using the latest idea from John, the markup'd look like this (I think?)

	||About windows ||Microsoft Windows
	-
	Yesterday it worked
	-
	Today it is not working
	-
	Windows is like that ||


> On Fri, Jan 09, 2004 at 12:42:34PM -0500, J. Perkins wrote:
> > My apologies if this seems a stupid question, but what are the issues 
> > with letting a newline mean <br>? I don't understand why a special 
> > markup is needed.
> 
> Two reasons:
> 1.  There are many people, myself included, who like lines to 
> automatically wrap even when newlines are there.  My guess from the 
> responses I've received on this issue is that there's just about an even
> 50-50 split between those who want text to wrap around newlines and
> those who want newlines to generate <br> characters.  

I think I know what you mean, but I'm not sure actually - could you 
illustrate the two cases above?
> 
> 2. Even if newline means <br>, we still need some sort of markup to allow
> <br>'s to be generated when the newline has to be embedded in some
> other construct such as a table cell or wiki style.

I guess is what I was thinking above, i.e. 'inside' some wiki markup, 
but in combination with line continuation. Which reminds me, if we ndon't 
want line-continuation but only insert a line-break, what was the problem 
with [[<<]]?
(I think this topic is getting too big, I'm starting to forget details)

/Christian


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