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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>Because there are
so many spammers (merciless as has been said and experienced myself) I support
the idea to add Captcha possibility(ies) in the core. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> -----Oorspronkelijk
bericht-----<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> Van: <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">pmwiki-users-bounces@pmichaud.com</st1:PersonName> [<a
href="mailto:pmwiki-users">mailto:pmwiki-users</a>- <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> bounces@pmichaud.com]
Namens ben@interdependentweb.com<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> Verzonden: maandag 14
juli 2008 16:49<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> Aan: <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">PmWiki Users</st1:PersonName><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> Onderwerp:
Re: [pmwiki-users] Captchas in core? (was: pmform captchas <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> bypassed on
thinkhost.com)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> > Patrick
R. Michaud wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> > I see
three possible solutions to this:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> ><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> > 1.
Make Captcha part of the core, with Site.EditForm preconfigured to<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> >
display a captcha whenever $EnablePostRequiresCaptcha is set.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> ><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> > 2.
Leave Captcha as a recipe, but modify the distributed Site.EditForm<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> > to
display a captcha whenever $EnablePostRequiresCaptcha is set.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> ><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> > 3.
Provide a Site.EditForm with the Captcha recipe, and instructions<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> > to
tell an admin how to configure it into the system (this actually<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> > may
be the status quo).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> I vote for
#1. I have more than a dozen PmWiki sites, and I have had <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> to manually
add captchas to each one in turn as spammers have <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> discovered
them. Most of these sites require logins to edit pages, <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> but they
then use PmForm or ZAP for email forms, message boxes, etc. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> that work
when not logged in. Sooner or later, each of these forms <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> has been
discovered and spammed mercilessly. As soon as I install <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> Captcha
(properly), the spamming stops. I will no longer install <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> PmWiki
without Captcha, so IMHO it belongs in core. :-)<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> Thanks, Pm.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> Ben
Stallings<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>>
Interdependent Web<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>>
_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> pmwiki-users
mailing list<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>>
pmwiki-users@pmichaud.com<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><a
href="http://www.pmichaud.com/mailman/listinfo/pmwiki-users"><span lang=EN-GB>http://www.pmichaud.com/mailman/listinfo/pmwiki-users</span></a></span></font><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> __________
Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> signature
database 3266 (20080714) __________<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> The message
was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>> </span></font><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><a
href="http://www.eset.com/"><span lang=EN-GB>http://www.eset.com</span></a></span></font><font
size=2 face="Courier New"><span lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Courier New"'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>__________
Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3266
(20080714) __________<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>The message was
checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
lang=EN-GB style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><a
href="http://www.eset.com/">http://www.eset.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='text-autospace:none'><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
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