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<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>1. I see where the value= is coming from. In
wikiform.php, look for:</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>} elseif
(preg_match('/^(\\d+)(?:\\*(\\d+))?$/',$f[$i]['etype'],$m)) {</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $col = ($m[2]) ? $m[2] : 40;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; if ($editing) $rows =
explode(&quot;\\\\\n&quot;,$fv[$f[$i]['element']]);</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; for($j=0;$j&lt;$m[1];$j++) {</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $rows[$j] =
(isset($rows[$j])) ? &quot; value='&quot;.$rows[$j].&quot;'&quot; : '';</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; $out[] =
&quot;&lt;input type='text' size='$col' name='&quot;.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
$f[$i]['element'].&quot;[]'&quot;.$rows[$j].&quot; /&gt;&quot;;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; }</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>} ...</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>and make the following change:</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; if ($editing) $rows =
explode(&quot;\\\\\n&quot;,$fv[$f[$i]['element']]);</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; else $rows = array();</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>The first field is OK; others of that type are not.
The above change </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>should fix it.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>It did fix it! Thank
you.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>2. The extra \\ characters, there are several
possibilities. </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>You may be able to tell from the above code that it
splits the field </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>value on '2 backslashes followed by a newline'. I can
call up the </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>edit form, but not save the results, so it's hard to
see what is </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>happening. Leave that one with me to test. It used to
work; maybe </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I broke it at some point.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>It looks as if it is recognising all the \ characters,
instead of</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>escaping them, when I join the array of values into
one field.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>I will wait to hear from
you.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>3. The Projectstext title.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>We have to create a title for this explicitly, using
the pmwiki</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>variable markup. In Projectstext.GroupFooter, we want
to add:</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>(:title {Projects/{$Name}}$:Project Name} :)</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>However, we have a problem, because AFAIK, pmwiki
doesn't support </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>spaces in variable names. What I suggest you do is
change </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>'Project Name' in your form and all current records to
'Project'.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>If you don't want to do that...</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>I actually made it work
differently, based on your previous recommendation of adding to the
Projecttext.php file</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>$EditRedirectFmt =
'Projects.$Name';</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>It works quite well.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>4. The discussion page links.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>From Projects/00003, I click Discussion and it takes
me to</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Comments/Projects-00003</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>This is missing a title attribute. I think you need
the</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>following in a Comments.GroupFooter, to do the same as</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>in the Projecttext field:</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>(:fparatitle title=@3@{$Name}@3@:)</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>However, there is a problem: '@3@' evaluates inline,</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>which is after title evaluates, so this will not work.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Try changing</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Markup(&quot;@3@&quot;, &quot;inline&quot;,
&quot;/@3@(.*?)@3@/e&quot;,
'str_replace(&quot;-&quot;,&quot;.&quot;,&quot;$1&quot;)');</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>to</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Markup(&quot;@3@&quot;, &quot;&lt;fparatitle&quot;,
&quot;/@3@(.*?)@3@/e&quot;,
'str_replace(&quot;-&quot;,&quot;.&quot;,&quot;$1&quot;)');</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>However, that might break something else; I'm not
sure.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>Also, the View link doesn't pick up the view template.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I think this is because of the ?action=view -- it
won't</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>let me save edits to Comments.PageActions, so I can't
test</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>this. Try removing the '?action=view' on the first
item;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>I don't think it's needed.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>It does not let me
remove or modify &#8220;?action=view&#8221;&#8230; As soon as I do it, the &#8220;View&#8221;
tab goes dead and stops being a link.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>-------------------------------------------------------</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>John, I have a concern:
What happens when a user wants to create a link to a Project page from another
page? It seems that they will have to know the five digit number, isn&#8217;t it?</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>This means that by simply
adding &#8216;[[&#8216; and &#8216;]]&#8217; to a wikiword, they may not be
able to create a link. Would you agree that this would be a loss of an
important functionality?</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>I have been wondering if
it would be better if the actual project form is Project.Projectname which &#8220;includes&#8221;
the Project.00001 page instead of it being the other way round. </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>This would mean the
following:</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=3
color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:
yellow'>1.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></font><font size=3 color=black><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>The user still creates a new page with
the &#8216;Add a new project&#8217; wikiform.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=3
color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:
yellow'>2.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></font><font size=3 color=black><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>When the form is submitted, the form data
is saved in Projects.00001 and the screen changes to Projects.Museum?action=edit
for the user to now create the actual Project page.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=3
color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:
yellow'>3.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></font><font size=3 color=black><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>Upon save, the user is presented with a
Projects.Museum form with Projects.00001 already &#8216;included&#8217;,
complete with a &#8220;=&gt;Edit form&#8221; link which would take the user
back to Projects.00001 form page for editing of the form data.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=3
color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:
yellow'>4.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></font><font size=3 color=black><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>The important thing will be to ensure
that pmwiki understands the relationship between Projects.00001 and
Projects.Museum.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in'><font size=3
color=black face=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:
yellow'>5.<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span></font></span></font><font size=3 color=black><span style='font-size:
12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>This will ensure that the project page is
Projects.Museum and not Projects.00001.</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>What do you think? Is this
achievable? </span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=3 color=black face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black;background:yellow'>S</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

<p class=MsoPlainText><font size=2 color=maroon face=Verdana><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'>&nbsp;</span></font></p>

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