<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><BR><DIV> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Comic Sans MS">Crisses</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Comic Sans MS">----</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Comic Sans MS">"I saw another multiple-use item -- it was a hamburger flipper/fly swatter! ... Remember what we had?<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>That 7x15 tent, said 'Sleeps 8 comfortably.'<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>-- yeah -- if you're SYBIL."</FONT></P> <P style="margin: 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px 0.0px"><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Comic Sans MS"><SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN>-- Bill Engvall</FONT></P> </DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On Sep 24, 2006, at 7:40 AM, Joachim Durchholz wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Crisses schrieb:</DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">I don't think anything in the area of line break handling will or should<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">be obsoleted in PmWiki anytime soon. And even *if* any changes are ever<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">implemented here, PmWiki should remain backwards compatible unless there<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">are *very* compelling reasons to do otherwise, of which I don't see any<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">right now.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">In other words: I think we're in violent agreement here :-)</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; ">*nod*</DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">Don't let them be derided by labelling them as "crazy ideas", or by<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">alleging that these people "do not understand the most basic aspects of<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">writing".<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Certainly not. I didn't catch those...</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>If everyone sticks to talking about themself they're never going to be wrong. :) Note below, how I speak about MY opinions and experience. I guess I could be wrong, but BOY would it be a challenge for anyone (even me) to prove it.</DIV><BR><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "> Especially not if PM reports the entire issue as 50:50<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">contentious - I know that 50% can still be very wrong, but I don't think<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">that applies in cases like this one.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; ">I personally am split 50/50 on the issue right from the starting gate. The way it stands, it's a pain in the butt for poems, great for tossing an email up on my wiki. Which one I do more often was probably directly influenced by how easy it was to toss an email up on the list vs how hard it was to put a poem up :P I haven't written many poems since I have been putting them online. Even with PRE tags on static pages, it was too much of a pain. So for the last 10 years I just haven't been writing many poems -- which is a real shame, because I was quite prolific for 20 years.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; ">I need to implement the magic box theory so that I can just copy / paste them into a wiki. That might get my creative juices flowing again.</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite"><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">My reply to Marc was aimed at taking heat out of the thread; it seems I<SPAN class="Apple-converted-space"> </SPAN></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; ">was too heated myself instead. Please take my sincere apologies for that.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; ">I'm ok with that. :)</DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; ">Crisses</DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>