[pmwiki-users] New skn

Ian MacGregor ardchoille42 at me.com
Mon Nov 11 17:26:50 CST 2013

You have point.

What I did was to create two skins, one for desktop use and one for small iOS devices, and give the visitor a choice of which skin they want to use. Maintaining two skins is trivial, in my opinion.

This skin looks great in a desktop web browser:

This skin looks great on the iPhone/iPod:

Both skins include a link in the upper right corner of the page to allow the user to toggle between desktop and mobile skins (browser cookie). This was the best way I could find to get the best layout on as many devices as possible. Responsive design works great for the desktop machine, but it looks rather bad for small iOS devices, and iOS is all I use.

See this cookbook recipe for an outline of how I accomplished this:

Rev. Ian MacGregor

> On Nov 11, 2013, at 3:08 PM, StefCT <stefct4 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Seems as if iOS has trouble with variable width in general (like in the
> default pmwiki skin). Maybe the mobile Safari browsers were optimized
> for handling those "old" fixed-width layouts and making them usable on
> small screens - and therefore often cannot deal with "newer" design
> approaches properly. This is just another guess, I haven't really looked
> into it. Please correct me if I'm totally wrong.
> --StefCT
>> On 11/11/2013 11:57 PM, Eric Forgeot wrote:
>>> On 11/11/2013 23:51, Ian MacGregor wrote:
>>> I've been doing web design for over a decade, and those older
>>> fixed-with CSS skins always look better.
>>> But, some people are so close minded they won't ever learn.
>> Responsive design gives different "fixed-width" response according to
>> the size of the user's screen, so I don't understand how a general
>> fixed-width css design could look better. For example the default pmwiki
>> skin looks out of place on a tablet or a smartphone, because everything
>> is so tiny you can't read anything.
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