[pmwiki-users] it's time to change pmwiki default skin!

V.Krishn vkrishn4 at gmail.com
Sat Sep 17 17:20:01 CDT 2011

On Sunday, September 18, 2011 03:19:43 AM Carlos AB wrote:
> I agree, even though I have never worked with people with such
> disabilities, It is good to know that they found no problems understanding
> how PmWiki differentiates one type of link from the other, and also that
> people writing skins for PmWiki have to think about a lot when trying to
> make a new move.

There is a much less used feature that allows switching of stylesheet without 
using javascript.
Skin providing "alternate stylesheet" like
1. High contrast
2. Low contrast
3. 16 color
4. High color
..etc.. can help, including adaptiblity to low end devices/screens.

<link rel="stylesheet" href="style.css" type="text/css" />
<link rel="alternate stylesheet" href="highcontrast.css" type="text/css" 
title="High Contrast Color Style" />
<link rel="alternate stylesheet" href="lowcontrast.css" type="text/css" 
title="Low Contrast Color Style" />

I have tested this feature since firefox 0.9+ and konqueror 3.5+.
I could not locate the functionality in Chromium.


> Note to self. :-)
> I also wonder if Pm was thinking about how people using text-based browsers
> would differentiate links to non-existent pages, when he created
> $PageLinkCreateFmt, the way he did.
> If so, than the Creole group haven't thought about everything ... Yet.
> Even if there are no problems for visually impaired people to
> differentiate PmWiki links, it doesn't say that a dashed border-bottom
> is worst than a dotted one or that link css rules  can't get any
> better for people with disabilities or at least different.
> Another thing that I was thinking, and not related to your e-mail and I
> believe more directed to Petko or Pm, is that if skin writers should use
> the prefs page/mechanism for skin preferences and even to choose a skin.
> That could be used for a lot of things like defining a preference for
> fonts (size, family, weight), styling option for links, etc ... It
> would go on the lines of what Petko said, in the end of this message :
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.web.wiki.pmwiki.user/58969
> Some skins use a different page for skin options. Should we use a
> prefs page, an exclusive page for skin options or both? What would be
> best?
> CarlosAB
> On 9/15/11, tamouse mailing lists <tamouse.lists at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'm currently working with someone who has two different kinds of
> > colourblindness as well as some other vision problems. As far as it
> > goes, she is able to read and interpret the current pmwiki front page
> > very well. She has a really hard time with a lot of sites with modern
> > designs. It seems as though we developers and designers decide on one
> > set of presentation aspects and expect one size will fit all. I'm
> > trying to develop a more flexible means of theming/skinning/what have
> > you that will allow the user to take control if they need to in a more
> > easily handled fashion.
> > 
> > The current pmwiki default skin may not be whizzy, but it does meet
> > more end users needs of functionality and usability, even if not their
> > sense of aesthetics.
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