[pmwiki-users] Petko's E2100/US$2,963 bid for WYSIWYG capability

Al Louis Ripskis ripskis at sprynet.com
Sat May 14 16:25:28 CDT 2011

> Petko Yotov <5ko at 5ko.fr >Sent: May 14, 2011 3:36 PM
>The cost of this work is estimated to be 2100 euros. My company doesn't 
>collect VAT. A receipt or a number of receipts will be available.
I'm relatively new to this list, so I have no idea how this type of contract has been handled in the past.
My first instinct would be to consult Pm on this. Also how would the collection be handled?
As to the cost, it of course would depend on how many of would contribute.
Today the euro to $US dollar rate is 1 to 1.411. So 2100 euros translate to $US2,963.10.
So if a 100 of us contributed, it would be $29.63 each.
If 50 then it would be $59.26.
If thirty, then it would be $98.77, or round off to $100.
Now could we have a show of hands--or in this case e-mails--as to how many of you and how much you would be willing to contribute.
I'll start of with $100, if necessary.

>To: Al Louis Ripskis <ripskis at sprynet.com>
>Cc: pmwiki-users <pmwiki-users at pmichaud.com>
>Subject: Re: Fw: Re: [pmwiki-users] Follow-Up:Whither WYSIWYG? Contract/Contribution
>On Saturday 14 May 2011 14:30:30 Al Louis Ripskis wrote:
>> Did my email slip through the cracks? Or is there some
>> other reason why you haven't responded?
>It is not easy to estimate this kind of work. Such a module can be done fairly 
>quickly (2-3 days) but without a good integration with PmWiki and with 
>potential security holes, as a couple of users expressed their concerns.
>PmWiki has lots of features and different configurations. Such a module has to 
>work in many different environments, like different settings for passwords, 
>diffrent uploads directories, different servers, and different browsers. 
>Additional modules need to be written - file picker (with thumbnails?), 
>asynchronous uploader (upload a file while you edit a page), internal link 
>picker (autocomplete?). The most difficult decision is how to store and 
>differenciate the feature-limited RichText input from wiki-code which can have 
>unlimited features and local customizations.
>Last but not least, it is not possible to write such a complex program at once 
>- there will certainly be bugs to be fixed as they are uncovered, features 
>added or changed, and the module has to be supported in the future.
>> "What do you estimate it would take to do it, and how long would it
>> take? What cost?" 
>Here is a Quote:
>2 weeks of work for a working beta prototype, including:
>* integration with PmWiki pages, passwords and upload directories
>* modules file picker/uploader, link picker
>* full documentation
>* 1 year bugfixing/support on the Cookbook Talk page or in the PITS
>* free software under the GNU GPL, MIT-style license or WTFPL/PD (the best 
>things in life are free)
>The cost of this work is estimated to be 2100 euros. My company doesn't 
>collect VAT. A receipt or a number of receipts will be available.
>Note that the features of the rich-text editor will be limited - not all 
>existing HTML tags or attributes can be available, and not all PmWiki markups 
>can have a rich-text "button". The rich-text editor will be in addition to the 
>normal wiki-text editor.

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