[pmwiki-users] Keeping recipes up to date -- updated

Patrick R. Michaud pmichaud at pobox.com
Fri Feb 16 09:44:22 CST 2007


> christian.ridderstrom at gmail.com wrote:
> > Would it make sense to let the PmWiki distribution contain a "backup" 
> > list of the recipe versions?  Then when you update PmWiki, you can also 
> > check to see if there are any recipes that you might want to update.

Interesting idea... but I think it could lead to confusion.
And it really improves things only for admins that cannot
use RecipeCheck or SiteAnalyzer to check their recipes using 
the pmwiki.org copy of recipelist.  (Admins that can access
the pmwiki.org-based checks can do a check immediately following
an PmWiki update without any extra work.)

Part of the problem is that any backup recipelist in the 
distribution would be current only as of the release date.  
So, if we go for a few weeks without any new releases of PmWiki, 
then admins downloading the latest PmWiki release would be 
checking against an outdated version of the recipe list.

Things may get slightly worse if/when recipes are updated in 
response to new PmWiki releases (e.g., to take advantage of a new
feature or to fix a problem associated with the new PmWiki release).  
Admins comparing against the recipelist from the distribution
would be easily misled into thinking all of their recipes are 
up-to-date with respect to the current PmWiki version, or 
confused by the fact that a recipe isn't working even though
a recipe check shows it as being up-to-date for a given PmWiki
release.

Still, an slightly out-of-date recipe check might be better
for some than no recipe check at all.  What I'd like to do is
come up with a standard place where an admin can put a copy
of the latest recipelist file, and then have ?action=recipecheck
fall back to using this file when it's unable to retrieve the
latest file from pmwiki.org.

Then we can see if it's a good idea to include a recipelist
file as part of the distribution.

On Fri, Feb 16, 2007, Sandy wrote:
> I like the idea, and the timing also makes sense -- often enough, but 
> not too often, and when the admin is already resigned to spending a few 
> minutes doing an update anyways.

Perhaps we should put a note about doing recipe checks into
the PmWiki.Upgrades page?

Pm



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