[pmwiki-users] Automatic Category Pages (WAS: Planning for 2.2.0)

Ben Wilson dausha at gmail.com
Fri Sep 22 11:07:14 CDT 2006

Just my 1.6 euro pennies:

Of all the pages, I think those pages in $CategoryGroup should be
automatically generated when an new category is added. I'll grant you,
that leads to Mizpelt (misspelt) categories. However, I've had editors
express frustration on these pages not being immediately available.
Having an automatic pagelist is easily possible via
GroupFooter/Header. But, it would be nice if [[!Shibboleth]] added for
the first time magically created Category.Shibboleth.

On 9/22/06, Crisses <crisses at kinhost.org> wrote:
> On Sep 22, 2006, at 8:18 AM, Kathryn Andersen wrote:
> > On Fri, Sep 22, 2006 at 05:42:47AM -0400, Crisses wrote:
> >>
> >> On Sep 21, 2006, at 11:30 PM, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> >>
> >>> 9.  It will be possible for administrators and recipes to define
> >>> "virtual" pages; i.e., pages that always appear to exist even
> >>> if they haven't been created yet.  This will avoid problems of
> >>> links to non-existent category pages, etc.
> >>
> >> Hrm.  Why not create the pages?
> >
> > Because if the entire content of the page is generated in the
> > GroupHeader or GroupFooter (such as can be the case for Categories or
> > other groups which are set up to behave in a similar way) then it's
> > a nuisance to have to create them all.
> I don't think "touch Category.NewPage" is that much of a problem --
> though I'm sure that when PmWiki creates a page it does a little more
> than just that.
> > Especially if you have naieve
> > users who don't understand why, if they add a [[!Category]] to a page,
> > it isn't automatically in the list of all categories...
> If it added the page, it would be in the list of all categories.
> My concern with NOT adding the page is that a wiki.d listing on the
> server won't show the page AND that if you migrate pages wholesale
> and forget to turn on the setting, your categories will be invisibly
> broken... with no one the wiser.  It's changing a site-wide
> functionality that I don't believe needs to be changed.
> It would solve some issues, maybe make my life as a programmer
> easier, but it's also bordering on lazier.  If I want to add
> categories, I feel that I should add categories.  If the system finds
> the mention of missing category pages, it should not pretend they
> exist -- make them exist!  PmWiki could correct the problem, or
> PmWiki can make the problem go away.  I prefer correcting problems
> personally.
> Just my opinion.
> Crisses
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Ben Wilson
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