[pmwiki-users] FAST Data possibilities
crisses at kinhost.org
Wed Sep 20 13:03:50 CDT 2006
On Sep 20, 2006, at 1:44 PM, The Editor wrote:
> FAST Data can easily create these lists using its logging feature,
> potentially making PmWiki a complete mini-system for managing small
> mailing lists. Could even make it so members could automatically
> subscribe/unsubscribe themselves.
They would have to ;)
> My question is--
> 1) how robust is PHP for doing something like mailing out emails to a
> list of 100 or 200 emails? Or more?
It's not a limit for PHP or sendmail et al but if you're sending a CC
list that big, the ISP is going to be ticked off. It can classify
you as a spammer. If you do this, you must allow opt-out features,
follow CAN SPAM procedures, et al. To PHP it's one single mail with
a cc or bcc list. To the mail server (SMTP) that has to split it
into individual emails -- it's a hassle. So no, it won't bog the
sending server, but the SMTP server may be, and your mailhost/ISP may
come down on you.
Unless you're sending 100 individual mails. that's another issue.
> 2) Will it bog down the system or anything for other users while that
> script is processing (or can others still do their work
> I guess I'm basically wondering if this is a realistic possibility, or
> if it's unrealistic. The coding part appears to me fairly simple..
The coding IS simple. Just don't make a spam machine. there are
regulations for email compliance.
> And one other general question that follows along would be, is there
> any way to have PmWiki periodically retrieve emails and process them?
> What would that involve? It would be nice for example to allow
> members to submit PmWiki pages by email. (I'm thinking forum posts
> here) Any thoughts?
on Linux/unix there's fetchmail -- if you can add it to the system.
It can POP3 emails. Is it reasonable for everyone? Probably not.
Check if there's a GPL fetchmail-independent POP3 class/code snippet
We had a recipe to add pages via pop3, but the headache is that not
everyone can add programs to their server. Try XMLRPC instead --
there are some great clients out there for it and some are even
free. I use Ecto, and it allows me to easily manage 300+ page sites.
In short, XMLRPC is a protocol that allows programs to remotely view/
update webpages --usually used for Blog software such as Blogger. I
have a list of sites, groups on each site, and pages in each group.
I double-click on a page, the wiki text is there and ready to edit.
Proofing pmwiki pages doesn't work in Ecto, so I have to check
formatting in a browser after uploading the page text. Still, it
gives me easy access to all the pages on my site without browser load
issues, and more.
Best for one-person wikis, but maybe it can do what you're looking
for as well.
-Also an email admin.
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