[pmwiki-users] Page Properties was (:title:) misfeature

John Rankin john.rankin at affinity.co.nz
Thu Mar 30 16:50:32 CST 2006

On Friday, 31 March 2006 2:21 AM, Patrick R. Michaud <pmichaud at pobox.com> wrote:
>On Wed, Mar 29, 2006 at 12:23:29PM +1200, John Rankin wrote:
>> On Monday, 27 March 2006 1:54 PM, John Rankin <john.rankin at affinity.co.nz> wrote:
>> >On Sunday, 26 March 2006 8:52 AM, Patrick R. Michaud <pmichaud at pobox.com> wrote:
>> >>This is a known (mis)feature; the (:title:) directive from
>> >>included pages can inadvertently override or become a title for
>> >>the page that includes it.  
>> >
>> >One obvious approach would be to separate page data from page 
>> >metadata, with a separate edit form for a page's metadata. The 
>> >descriptive metadata are the current (:title:), (:keywords:) 
>> >and (:description:) directives.
>They would then be "page attributes", and ought to be handled by

>> On further thought, the following directives could all move to
>> a "Page Properties" action:
>> noheader, nofooter, noleft, noright, nogroupheader, 
>> nogroupfooter, noaction and perhaps comment.
>This would seem to have the side effect of preventing such
>directives to be called from (:include:), unless we somehow
>specify that certain properties from included pages affect the 
>current page.  I know that I often make use of the ability to 
>put such directives in an included page (e.g., a groupheader or

That would be one way to do it. I was thinking that once one
introduces the idea of page properties, it becomes easy to set
default page properties. For example, the default setting of
nogroupheader for a GroupHeader would probably be 'checked'.
More generally, I was thinking that one would supplement the 
idea of including content with that of inheriting properties.
Something like this:

The attributes screen includes a field

    Inherit attributes from [page name    ]

Any settings on the attributes screen would override the 
inherited values.

Defaults + inheritance give a lot of flexibility, perhaps
more than is needed.
>I'm thinking that the real solution to the (:title:) issue is
>to just redefine the (:title:) markup so that it doesn't directly
>affect {$Title}, but just sets the page's "title=" attribute.
>This is what (:keywords:) and (:description:) currently do.
>Anyone agree/disagree?
Sounds good to me. The choice of words, page's "title=" attribute,
is noted.'
John Rankin

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