[pmwiki-users] Case-insensitive first letter in page or group name (Was: How use lowercase in Group Names)
chr at home.se
chr at home.se
Thu Sep 29 02:51:30 CDT 2005
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> > Completely orthogonal to this issue, I think it would be nice to be
> > able to have names (page and/or group) that are completely in lower
> > case.
> > (I'm not sure if this is relevant, but Swedish rarely have capitalized
> > words in our titles, making the mixed case unnatural for swedish
> > pages).
> > So... if we didn't use mixed case to separate the words, what could we
> > use instead? Well, what about '+', although that is such a simple
> > suggestion so I assume it's already been discussed before.
> It would undoubtedly be an underscore. '+' is not so good because it
> has to be encoded as %2b in urls, unless you were really meaning the '+'
> in its "space" meaning in urls, in which case keeping track of when to
> use '+', ' ', and '%2b' just confuses people.
Well, I did mean + in its "space" meaning, but I don't know or understand
the implications. Nor why it'd be difficult to keep track of the
differences between '+', ' ' and '%2b' in the URI.
Just for fun, I tried entering this in Opera
but to my surprise it seems I was redirected to
Anyway, using underscore seems like a good choice.
> However, I'd also presume that a site that wanted to go this way
> (lowercase words with spaces) would be willing to accept the loss of
Well, speaking personally, I'd be more than fine with that. Not sure how
true this is in general of course.
> or at least that DocumentationIndex, [[DocumentationIndex]], and
> [[documentation index]] won't all refer to the same page and that
> there's not a wikiword form of [[documentation index]].
I assume that "DocumentationIndex" wouldn't even become a link (which is
what I'd prefer anyway). Having '[[DocumentationIndex]]' and
'[[documentation index]]' point to different pages would also be fine.
However, it would be inconvenient that these don't go to the same page:
See the [[documentation pages]] for help on different topics.
[[Documentation pages]] are avaiable for lots of topics.
> Not that this is an invalid or bad way to go, but it is a consequence
> of making that choice.
The last example I gave might actually indicate it is a bad way to go,
at least for languages that capitalize the first letter in a sentence.
I think we should remember this as an important case of where you probably
*do* want the links to point to the same page.
So it's kind of funny, but we're back to a case where I find myself
arguing for case-insensitivity with regard to the very first letter...
Christian Ridderström, +46-8-768 39 44 http://www.md.kth.se/~chr
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