[pmwiki-users] Utility pages
jo at durchholz.org
Wed Jun 15 15:46:32 CDT 2005
Patrick R. Michaud wrote:
> Jon hits most of the major issues I see squarely on the head...
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 10:22:35AM -0500, Jon Haupt wrote:
>> [...lots of good stuff deleted...]
>> PmWikiAdmin always seemed like a good idea and the length really never
>> bothered me before because nobody visited those pages much, but like
>> Patrick said you'd suddenly be visiting it a lot if that's where
>> AllRecentChanges or SearchWiki was located.
> Yes, PmWikiAdmin was fine for pages that we expected only wiki admins
> to see, but once we start adding "SideBar", "SearchWiki", "AllRecentChanges",
> etc. into the list then "PmWikiAdmin" doesn't seem to work so well.
I think that's one line where we can split the pages. Those that are
supposed to be seen by administrators only, and those that are visible
to the user. (Admin-only pages should go to a separate group anyway.
It's simpler to set read and write passwords that way.)
So PmWikiAdmin (and PmWiki<something>) would be fine group names for the
admin and recipe/skin authoring stuff.
Stuff that users can see could go into the Site group (and possibly a
> It's not just length, but also how it will look to a typical reader when
> encountered. For example, if I use a template's search box to perform
> a search on a site that otherwise doesn't act like a wiki, then it looks
> really funny to have the search results page displaying "PmWikiAdmin"
> in the url. Not to mention that some wiki administrators will then
> be concerned that ordinary users are somehow being exposed to the
> "admininstrative" sections of their site.
Site.SearchResults? Nah... doesn't sound too well.
How about a configurable name? For example, when I'm doing the Fooblaz
wiki, then I'd simply name the main group as "Fooblaz", ...
> Somehow, I just think that names like
> Site.AllRecentChanges Site.ApprovedUrls Site.SideBar
> Site.SearchWiki Site.PageList Site.Map
Fooblaz.AllRecentChanges Fooblaz.ApprovedUrls Fooblaz.SideBar
Fooblaz.SearchWiki Fooblaz.PageList Fooblaz.Map
> For those who are concerned that an admin might want to use
> "Site" as a group name-- I'll pose the question: How many existing
> sites are actually doing or considering this?
A "Site" group isn't used, planned, or considered in any of the three
PmWikis I'm administering.
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