[Pmwiki-users] Creating Groups

Wade Hudson whudson
Wed Jan 19 02:04:09 CST 2005


Ciaran,
Thanks much. I had forgotten that each page should have both a GroupName
and a PageName.
-Wade

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ciaran [mailto:ciaranj at gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 11:48 PM
> To: Wade Hudson
> Cc: Pmwiki-users at pmichaud.com
> Subject: Re: [Pmwiki-users] Creating Groups
>
>
> The pmwiki.org website does have resources that can explain this
> concept properly, but I'll attempt to quickly help you out before the
> Americans wake up, in case you're in a hurry :)
>
> In Wiki's every page is given a name, this name is usually a
> camel-case word, i.e TestPage  BadgerCoat EmailAddresses etc.  (Often
> referred to as wiki-words).
>
> Now ever wiki page *also* belongs in a 'group'.  This group is usually
> used for 'grouping' pages hence the name group.  So you may have a
> 'Books' group and pages inside such as 'TheBible' 'CollinsDictionary'
> 'FuzzyThinking' etc.
>
> To specify a *specific* page within the wiki you have to provide both
> the Group it belongs to and the Page you want to provide a link to.
> There are two formats for this:
> "GroupName.PageName" or "GroupName/PageName".  So for example
> "Books/TheBible" would refer to the 'TheBible' page within the Books
> group.
>
> The only difference is in how they are rendered on the html output but
> they both behave the same semantically allowing you to refer to a
> unique page.
>
> *HOWEVER* You can also refer to a WikiPage by just entering its
> PageName without explicitly stating the group it belongs to.  If you
> do this the system (by default, although it is configurable) will
> apply a set of 'guesses' to determine which page you might actually
> mean, effectively in the case where PageName != GroupName ,  PmWiki
> decides that if you put a PageName in the page, what you really mean
> is 'CurrentGroupName/PageName'
>
> Now to put this in context, when you removed the 'Main' from the
> Main/SideBar page links if I understand the system correctly (which
> its quite possible I don't!) The system will attempt to find the
> specified pages in whatever group the currently selected page belongs
> to.  So if you're browsing the 'FuzzyThinking' page the sidebar links
> will be attempting to locate pages such as 'Books/WikiSandbox' etc.
> which obviously don't work, in general unless you're trying to do
> something which is different per group you should explicitly define
> both the group + page name for all wikilinks within the sidebar imho
> ;)
>
> I hope this a) helps and is b) correct, if it isn't I'm sure
> I'll be corrected.
> Good luck!
>  -ciaran
>
>
> On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 23:07:17 -0800, Wade Hudson
> <whudson at igc.org> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm new to this group and to wikis in general. I hope that
> someone can
> > help a novice such as myself.
> >
> > Our site is at:
> > http://progressiveresourcecatalog.org
> >
> > I don't fully understand how Groups work. As I posted to
> the Sand Box:
> >
> > ++++
> > When I edited the sidebar and deleted "Main/" from
> everything but the
> > Admin (group which includes the Sandbox),
> >
> > and added to the Sand Box
> [[SelectHealth/ServiceOrganizations | Select
> > Catalog: Health -- Service Organizations]] and
> > [[OpenHealth/ServiceOrganizations | Open Catalog: Health -- Service
> > Organizations]]
> >
> > and saved those entries and clicked on the links, a
> question mark popped
> > up next to links in the sidebar.
> >
> > So I add "Main/" only in the sidebar.
> > It seems to work ok now.
> >
> > But I'm not sure that I've created my groups properly.
> > ++++
> >
> > Why do those question marks pop up when I delete "Main/" from the
> > Sidebar?
> > Do I have to include "Main/" at the front of each of those
> URLs in the
> > Sidebar?
> > Should I include "Main/" in my page names elsewhere, like on:
> >
http://progressiveresourcecatalog.org/index.php/Main/SelectHealth?action
> =edit
> Have I created my groups properly?
>
> Thanks much for any assistance you can provide.
>
> Sincerely,
> Wade Hudson
>
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- Ciaran





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