[Pmwiki-users] Listing all pages / groups
Glenn Blalock
gblalock at grandecom.net
Mon Nov 18 19:24:53 CST 2002
Just a comment as I follow the more important discussions about
"restoring" and "uploading":
"Search Wiki" with an empty search box returns an alphabetical list of
(almost) all pages / groups.
glenn
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pmwiki-users-admin at pmichaud.com
> [mailto:Pmwiki-users-admin at pmichaud.com] On Behalf Of Davis, James C.
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:23 PM
> To: 'pmwiki-users at pmichaud.com'
> Subject: RE: [Pmwiki-users] File upload feature discussion
>
>
> From my perspective redundancy is an issue, especially if
> files are attached to individual pages. Imagine a banner that
> is included on every page in a group. If a group has 100
> pages in it that's 100 copies of the same file. It's a waste
> of disk space in my opinion. Also, I just personally can't
> stand data redundancy. I think this was drilled into my head
> in my DBMS classes. :)
>
> I actually often wish there was a "list all groups" or "list
> all pages in a group" function. For me, searching is not
> always the primary method of finding the information I want,
> and often browsing a list of pages is often more useful. I
> guess maybe it's the case when you're not completely sure
> what you're looking for. I would think there are others out
> there that think this way as well, or maybe I'm just crazy
> (quite possible).
>
> The problem I see with not associating files with a page is
> name collisions. This would undoubtedly cause mass chaos on a
> large wiki system. Names like "banner.gif" and "title.jpg"
> would be very common, and various WikiAuthors would fight it
> out over who gets what name (might be an interesting social
> experiment though). You could change the name to prevent
> collisions, but this is going to confuse the heck out of most people.
>
> RecentChanges is just one way to list all pages. I think
> there is a need for alphabetical listing as well as chronological.
>
> Just my tew sens.
>
> James Davis
> Network Manager
> College of Business
> Texas A&M University - Corpus Christi
> (361) 825-5926
> jdavis at cob.tamucc.edu
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Patrick R. Michaud [mailto:pmichaud at sci.tamucc.edu]
> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 2:30 PM
> To: Davis, James C.
> Cc: 'pmwiki-users at pmichaud.com'
> Subject: RE: [Pmwiki-users] File upload feature discussion
>
>
> On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Davis, James C. wrote:
>
> > As I see it, the issues surrounding the file upload are
> that we don't
> > want to have repetitive data (the same file stored many
> times), but we
> > do want the files to be organized in a way that makes it easy for
> > WikiAuthors to find them insert them into pages. [...stuff
> > deleted...]
>
> Actually, the first issue (redundancy) is a non-issue from my
> perspective.
> The only real issue is the second one--how to have files
> organized in a
> way that makes it easy for WikiAuthors to upload them, find them, and
> insert them into pages. Thus it's primarily a user-interface
> issue as opposed to an implementation one.
>
> > The files
> > could be associated with both WikiPages and WikiGroups so you could
> > get a listing of all files for a page, for all pages in the
> group, or
> > all files
> in
> > the system (with thumbnails for images?). I would suggest links for
> > "Page Files", "Group Files", and "All Files" on each page to see a
> > listing of
> all
> > associated files.
>
> This is one of the areas I'm struggling with--how/where to
> list files? Or is it even necessary? Would it be sufficient
> to have a
> "RecentAttachments" page similar to the "RecentChanges" page
> to maintain a list of available attachments? As it is now,
> PmWiki doesn't have a mechanism to "list all pages" or "list
> all pages in a group" and doesn't seem to suffer from it--why
> would we need those features for attachments?
>
> Pm
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